Chris Short

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Jan 6

Hamas Broke the June 2008 Ceasefire (A Conversation)

I got into it first thing this morning with some pro-Hamas types on Twitter this morning.  I came home and essentially picked the conversation right back up with some serious anti-Israel types.  It’s really a must read for everyone trying to defend Israel and a must read for those who enjoy spreading misinformation or outright lies.

tweetsfromgaza:  Retweeting @Jew4palestine: #gaza haha CNN reports isreal broke the truce http://tinyurl.com/Isr-broke-ceasefire

NOTE:  The video was from CNN about a report that states that the Israelis broke the cease fire trying to stop potential kidnappings.

chrisshort: @tweetsfromgaza Wouldn’t gunmen trying to kidnap Israelis be a breech of the cease fire?

NOTE:  tweetsfromgaza responded with an obvious misinterpretion of my question but @Jew4palestine retweeted the original blurb so I sent the same response to him/her.

chrisshort@Jew4palestine Wouldn’t gunmen trying to kidnap Israelis be a breech of the cease fire? #Gaza

Jew4palestine: @chrisshort #gaza what ur point isreal started it, dont get into semantics with meboychick Isreal is a ponzi scam

chrisshort: @Jew4palestine Israel didn’t if they were saving themselves from torture and torment. You’re telling me not one shot was fired from #Gaza?

NOTE:  Then this guy chimes in.

endodontist: @chrisshort It never happened. No Israelis were kidnapped and there was no attempt. #gaza another piss poor Israeli PR tidbit.

chrisshort: @endodontist CNN, in the report cited by @Jew4palestine, reported kidnap attempts. Same report used to cite that Israel started it. #Gaza

endodontist: @ChrisShort Israel claimed to have feared hamas might be preparing for such attempts. no attempts were actually claimed or documented.

chrisshort:  @tweetsfromgaza Why is #Hamas putting people into a school and then shooting at Israelis knowing the e ventual outcome? #Gaza

endodontist: @chrisshort Would you kindly share the source of your information re. Hamas using the UN school? Thanks in advance. #gaza

chrisshort: @endodontist Looking for a linkable report now. Heard on the satellite radio on the way home.

chrisshort: @endodontist Vid from 2007: http://is.gd/eDZi Former head master was rocket maker http://is.gd/eIp3

endodontist: @chrisshort Even blockaded, Hamas respected the terms of the ceasefire until Israeli incursion into #gaza on Nov 4. well documented #gaza

chrisshort: @endodontist I find that incredibly hard to believe

endodontist: @chrisshort Apparently Israel is still rejecting calls for even a temporary ceasefire in #gaza. http://tinyurl.com/9l7y82

chrisshort: @endodontist Pretty shady source. Why ask for a ceasefire? #Israel wants the attacks to not happen again. #Hamas is the problem in #Gaza.

endodontist: @ChrisShort which is hard to believe? i empathize with you.. in that much of this coming as a shock to me too. but the sources are solid.

chrisshort: @endodontist What sources??? I can’t find any.

endodontist: @ChrisShort so you can’t believe that Israel is still rejecting a ceasefire? maybe im confused. do a google news search. lots of results

chrisshort: @endodontist I can’t believe that #Hamas did not fire one rocket from June to November. Telling me to go search isn’t a source.

endodontist: @ChrisShort Solid sources confirming Israel’s breaking of the ceasefire on Nov 4, i mean. The current ceasefire calls? im not sure.

chrisshort: @endodontist Find me a source then, please. But, why when #Israel pulled out of #Gaza in 2005 did rockets get shot into #Israel?

endodontist: @ChrisShort Well, the only documented violation of the ceasefire that started June 19 was Israel’s Nov 4 incursion into gaza.

NOTE:  Raise/Throw the bullshit flag now!

chrisshort: @endodontist Source, “The violence represented the most serious break in a ceasefire…” Leads me to believe there was other violence.

endodontist: @ChrisShort If you can find any documentation of Hamas rockets dated from between June 19 & Nov 3, please pass it along. cheers.

endodontist: @chrisshort I have no idea about 2005. Fill me in, if you will.

chrisshort: @endodontist Israel pulled out of #Gaza in 2005. They’ve been shelled ever since. Why? #Hamas?

chrisshort: @endodontist Google News Archives: israel rockets 19 Jun 07 - 3 Nov 07: http://is.gd/eJok #Gaza #Hamas #AskIsrael @israelconsulate

endodontist: @chrisshort Your date input is mistaken. rather than 2007 should be 2008. there were violations but not by hamas.

chrisshort: @endodontist Dates corrected: http://is.gd/eJqr #Gaza #Hamas #AskIsrael @israelconsulate

endodontist: @ChrisShort thanks.. checking it out now.

There was no response from endodontist I honestly think he got on someone’s bandwagon and just rode it.  It was pretty easy to shoot holes in, from what I can tell, were three people’s argument.  But, when I got home today everything was Israel’s fault and now I know for a fact it isn’t because according to Fox News three rockets were fired into Israel on Tuesday, June 24, 2008.  This search on the Google News Achive is very important to look at.


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